Rescinded Catalytic converters PASS or FAIL?

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barrym95838
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Here is an upload of my homework assignment from last night (I apologize for the scan quality being a bit sub-par).


Feel free to discuss these amongst yourselves.  They are sorted roughly by increasing order of difficulty.

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barrym95838
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This post was updated on .
Okay, this is the first time that I have tried something like this, so we'll see how well it works:

[Edit: removed these links because I don't trust them to behave properly.  Will try dropbox replacements soon ...]

Let me know how it works for you.

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[Edit:  I just tried it for myself, and my anti-virus software didn't like it.  Do any of you guys have a suggestion for document hosting, preferably free?]

[Edit #2:  Can you guys see what I'm doing here without having to join?  I know that I have asked similar questions like this before, but the silence was deafening.
http://members.iatn.net/forums/read/msg.aspx?f=forum17&m=59040&fv=0&ar=0
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FiendFX
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Not sure how many questions are there on the homework, but I'm pretty sure it can be done is 5 minutes.
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barrym95838
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FiendFX wrote
Not sure how many questions are there on the homework, but I'm pretty sure it can be done is 5 minutes.
I think you're right that it's possible, but it took me at least twice that long, and I have never been below average in anything that mattered to me except the FuPR.

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FiendFX
It's ok to take your time. At the end of the day, it's the score that matters.
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100% way to find the ARB's PDF file of an EO if you know the EO number.

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All the PDF files have the same web address, simply change the EO number in an EO file address and if the one you are looking for exists, it will display.

Example: http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/eo/d-280-54.pdf

Take out the 280-54 and replace it with the EO you are looking for and then load the page.

Barry, please make sticky!
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FiendFX
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autojoe505
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no it is NOT legal, because it is for 95-04. always read the pdf file. go to carb web site, upper right hand corner search the EO and read the pdf. if the converter was installed after 09 it must always have an EO# unless it is an OEM part.
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pomonero
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if customer has no proof fail it you need a fail anyway
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Kevin
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the answer to this is all about documentation. dates of install and proof
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Kevin wrote
the answer to this is all about documentation. dates of install and proof
Date of install is irrelevant per ARB "Affected converters sold on or before their rescission or withdrawal date,are legal for use and installation in California."
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermktcat/catrescind.pdf 
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smog007
1995 TYT 4Runner



1995 TYT 4Runner 3.0L

PASS or FAIL ?
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smog007 wrote



1995 TYT 4Runner 3.0L

PASS or FAIL ?
The part # 83222 shows it is CARB compliant but it looks like a magnaflow cat in your picture and on Amazon that they weld flanges on and resell. It should have a D-193-XX etched into the bottom shell then also.
https://www.amazon.com/Benchmark-BEN83222-Catalytic-Converter-Compliant/dp/B00800Q1W8?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0
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smog007
There is no EO# or any D-XXX-XX ...
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Re: Rescinded Catalytic converters PASS or FAIL?

none
I would fail it for sure then. I had a 1998ish BMW 740IL a few years ago that had a BORLA replacement cat on it and they made the pipes and used a Magna Flow cat but the part number on the cat fit Volvo and not BMW.
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smog007
Thank you none.

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Centralized Smog
On the 2012 Smog check reference guide, there was information on pre 2009 cats. All of that is gone from the 2014 version. Does that make the old cats without CA or OBD2 stamp good?
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none
I have wondered that too.

I think it would be a good question for the CAL-ARC forum. The problem will be that if they say it is OK but the next guy to test it isn't one of the 20 guys that read that post your FPR will get dinged.

I still check for for CA stamp on earlier ones and OBD2 if it is an OBDII vehicle.  
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barrym95838
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The BAR should be clarifying gray areas, not sweeping them under the carpet.  It happened with the Mercedes ASM issue, the "run ASM with OD off", and now this.  I'm sure there are other examples I didn't remember.  I tried to bring up as many issues as I could in my 11-page letter, but I don't believe that any of them have been addressed.

a0173049-0c47-44dd-8d7b-2d8fff02ec6a.pdf

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Smogtech
Barry I just read it.  re: the lady shifted to 3rd gear.  You passed in 2nd gear for 25mph did you get the wrong gear error ?  thanks
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