Smog Program Changes 2013

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Smog Program Changes 2013

smoginstructor
Last Week in San Diego attended a training where a lot of information was disclosed about the upcoming changes to the smog Program.:

-We will begin to smog Hybrids OBDII only Jan.1,2013
- New CALVIS OBDII ONLY EQUIPMENT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED MID 2013.
- Because of lowered testing time as a convenience to the consumer we are to reduce our prices to between 14-25 a car.
- When the presenter was asked what about all the overhead shops will incur, with new equipment he said its part of doing business.
- When the presenter was asked what about technicians with low FPR's what can be done, he said to either take them off the machine and make them a service writer or FIRE THEM ( He said that's what I would do if they had I good score I would know they are doing things right)  so B.A.R. is advising those stations with technicians who have low scores to fire their technicians.

More info will be shared on the upcoming conference call.  lets Stay safe out their guys and gals and lets have an amazing day.
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stressedout
minus $14-$25  from original price??? wtf !!! is that mandatory?  I should tell my landlord that im doing less smog so my rent should go down too.
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stopthestarprogram
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http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/smogcheck/march09/transitioning_to_obd_only_im.pdf

Corresponding cost savings to California motorists would be achieved as reduced
testing times and equipment costs translate into lower inspection prices. Although prices
are ultimately dependent on market forces, ARB staff estimates that cost reductions
between $15 and $35 per test would occur, resulting in cumulative cost savings between
$60 million and $350 million per year. Even at the most conservative ends of the
estimates, the cost effectiveness of continuing tailpipe emission testing is estimated at
more than $120,000 per ton of HC+NOx reduced, which is on the order of ten times
higher than commonly accepted cost effectiveness thresholds for motor vehicle emission
control measures. Therefore, the data indicate that relying solely on an OBD II-based
inspection for newer model year vehicles would greatly increase the efficiency of the
ES-2
Smog Check program and reduce its cost without jeopardizing attainment of California’s
air quality goals.
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FRUSTRATED
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I say BAR is full of it, where are the $15 to $25 Diesels smogs?  Right, not there!  As long as we as an industry don't start whorring out and lower our prices BAR can't dictate a price in the private industry!
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ClassActionSuit
As long as I am a part of this insane program I will not drop my price.  Also if I am one of the chosen golden shops that pass the fpr not only will I not lower my price but I will raise it.  It is all about supply and demand...they are eliminating the competition for us...if I don't pass the fpr I will sue the state no question about that...it will be my personal mission...i will try and hire some attorney who love's to see their selves  on t.v.  so this gets as much publicity as possible..  This day has been one of those nightmare days where people who fail their smog tests blame me for not heating up their cars...people coming in with modifications going to other shops that pass them...not being able to test some vehicles because I go outside of the limits in 2nd gear so I abort the test and pass on it.  I advise the customer to call the BAR. I have contacted the BAR and they don't give a shit about you telling them the vehicle was indeed tested in the correct gear.  I think it is time to invest in a small camera or just record with my cell phone the gear I am testing the vehicle in.  That way when I sue the State I will have an actual recording of the gear I am testing in and I will have my assistant pan out to the screen showing the rpms.  I would like to see shops come together.  And for all you crooks that low ball your prices...#@##**#@!!!!!!!  
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crazy8
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Well bar wants us to lower our prices do they? Me thinks prices should doubble up for a number of reasons:
1. The cost of new equipment, I recommend that we attempt to recover the cost in one year, due to the fact the program will more that likley be declared illegal on appeal by the State Supreme Court.
2. Shop's will face higher unemployment costs due to employees being fired or laid off because they are not star certified, illegal termination.
3. Lawsuits by ex employees for illegal termination.
4. Equipment just purchased not earning revenue.
5. Possible higher wages paid to new smog techs with a clean rating.

OR

If the lawsuit is thrown out STRIKE !

I mean a real strike, not a few days here and there, I mean a full blown all out months long strike, that will set the state on its butt. Just think of the public pressure the state is broke, no regestration money comming in due to lack of smog tests, Imagine the media coverage  on how the state is screwing over the shop owners and the smog techs who are being punished by the state for not hitting some imaginary number that they cant even tell the media what that number is or where it came from, also humor me for a few here, how about Charlie Peters as a group spkosman demanding a un-altered copy of the Sierra Research project that shows how bar mismanaged the entire program from day one, that report is the smoking gum, believe me.
Oh well just dreaming here, but if anyone is serious about a strike county ME IN !!!!
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Banned
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With greater ease of testing vehicles, as in the OBDII plug in check only,
the BAR would have so much less to worry about, and so many fewer things to
regulate, they should be talking about how many BAR employees they could
dump, and the huge savings for the California taxpayers. No emissions, fewer
functional checks, fewer UCs, = fewer dickweeds to harass us. Let their
logic follow the obvious path.
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Re: Smog Program Changes 2013

FRUSTRATED
Well put Banned, 110% agree, pink slips should be prepped now for the BAR rats.
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Skanga
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smoginstructor wrote
- Because of lowered testing time as a convenience to the consumer we are to reduce our prices to between 14-25 a car.
Not sure if whoever was speaking at this training thing is aware that shops are privately owned and operated. They can charge $200 for a test if they want and BAR can't do a damn thing about it. "We are to reduce our prices"...haha.